Wednesday, July 29, 2009

July 27 - AKS (Failed trade)

The first chart shows AKS trading in a box for the past 6 days.


The second chart shows how I executed the trade. The first and second bars were WR and had nice volume. Bars 3 and 4 were IB with declining volume, so I thought that if sellers were able to break the second bar low, they would be able to break out of the box. I placed my stops 0.02 below the 2nd bar low and I placed my stop a few cents above the PDL and 0.01 above the second bar high. Unfortunately I was taken at both ends and AKS traded in a range for most of the day.
If you had any thoughts about why this trade fail, please go ahead and post. My two thoughts are: 1) The lower range of the box should have probably be $18, since the PP was closed enough and round numbers always provide some support/resistance. 2) The stop loss should have been 0.02 above the second bar high and that would have saved me.

9 comments:

Tom T. said...

Here are my reasons - I am not an expert and I may be wrong. I would not have taken the trade for several reasons: 1) I use relative volume analysis and then stock does not whow a pick up in RV. 2) I stay away from stocks that have price action that touches the prior day - I like my gaps to be gaps. I would like to see more separation here and I also want compact price action - the first hour of the prior day is all over the place - sign of indecision and no clear trend yet in your intended direction. 3) I plot the pivot lines and I like shorts to setup below S2. 4) This stosk set up at s1 -very hard for me to find setups that work. Study RCL - I use the 15 minute time frame - but look at the volume difference and the inner bars forming and you will see some of the differences I just pointed out. RCL did not have as compact prior price action like SEE. By the way, I still paper trade so I am not yet an expert. I also make mistakes in my paper trading like thinking PENN would be good to short based on a sliightly different setup than your trade.

Tom T. said...

I did no spell check - The stock AKS does not show a pickup in RV, what I meant to say. I use finviz as a stock screener and it has a relative volume that I set to 1.0 or better and I have not seen anyone post successful trades (gaps) that also did not have higher RV on the gap day - I cannot say this scientifically - but the majority of successful gaps have this and I wished I learned that a year ago. Relying on free scans has its limits. But RV is just one part of the equation. Good luck in your trading. July was a good month for me - stay positive. I developed different setups that took advantage of fading gaps, etc - because we will not see many successful gap plays so you got to take advantage of failed gap plays.

anarco said...

Thanks for your feedback Tom. How do you use RV analysis?

Tom T. said...

I should not call it analysis - I just use it as a way to sort stocks into higher probability successful gaps - on finviz.com I set the relative volume to 1 times or greater for both up and down gaps.

TJ said...

Tom,

Finviz looks like an awesome stock screener. Is it real-time?

bl said...

FWIW: 1)I don't look at vol except in pairing down WL first 15' or so 2)I trade IB, hammer, doji, patterns, fibs, different time frames: 1-3/5' min drops too fast and would wait for a retracement or not trade it, 2/10' IB but fails, 6/15' hits PDL/OR 6Fib works for a small gain 7/30' doji works for a small gain 4/60' inverted hammer for gain. PDL has alot of sellers/buyers. Looks like an Island formation could drop Thr. X has a nice NR IB 15' chart with 3/15' break

anarco said...

Thanks for the feedback bl!
I look at dif time frames like 1, 5, 15, daily. I do not look at 30' or 60'; that would be really too much for me.
I also had X on my WL and saw 3/15 after the fact.
Cheers,

Tom T. said...

Jamie - I think you need to pay to get real time results with finviz

Stewie said...

jamie. FINVIZ offeres premium services with real time quotes i believe but i find most of my ideas off finviz even with a time delay, i still manage to get killer ideas off it. What i love the most about finviz, is you can screen all criteria and just by moving your mouse over the stock symbol, you can see a quick chart of the stock!!! sweet feature!!!